I recently received this email and was asked for my response.
I
won't defend liberals because I think they are always right or even
because I think they are right more often than conservatives. Both
are to blame for the situation we are in, and both benefit from
fanatical true believers that get them elected and fund them.
Our
system has devolved to the point where politicians' main priority is
to get reelected. This type of partisan rhetoric doesn't solve any
problems, and actually makes it more difficult to solve problems
because it whips up the emotions of the extremists and since they are
the people that scream the loudest they are the people the
politicians hear.
The
solution to a specific problem is NOT always in the center. But if
the 2 sides see each other as mortal enemies and subhumans there is
no way they will ever accept an idea from the other side even if it
is a good idea that will actually solve a problem.
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Subject: Indisputable Facts Not
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:35:25 -0800Things conservatives get blamed
for, but were in fact done by 'progressives'.
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If you ever get a chance, look into the history of woodrow wilson (I
have a woodrow right now beavis).
IMO, he's a criminal of the highest order and what's listed below is
only a fraction of his crimes.
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For example, one will virtually never hear that the Palmer Raids,
Prohibition, or American eugenics were thoroughly progressive
phenomena. These are sins America itself must atone for. Meanwhile,
real or alleged “conservative” misdeeds — say McCarthyism —
are always the exclusive fault of conservatives and a sign of the
policies they would repeat if given power. The only culpable mistake
that liberals make is failing to fight “hard enough” for their
principles. Liberals are never responsible for historic misdeeds
because they feel no compulsion to defend the inherent goodness of
America. (You're
saying that it is a God given fact that of the millions of liberals
since 1776 none have felt a compulsion to defend the inherent
goodness of America. Did god herself tell you that? If I were a
liberal I would not feel responsible for the historic misdeeds of
past liberals, many were probably bad men, and sociopaths, why would
I feel responsible for their actions? If the underlying philosophy of
liberalism has led to mistakes that is something that needs
addresing.) Conservatives,
meanwhile, not only take the blame for events not of their own making
that they often worked the most assiduously against, but find
themselves defending liberal misdeeds in order to defend America
herself. (I
would love to see some specific examples of that. Are you saying they
willingly take the blame for things they worked against or liberals
give them the blame? If conservatives are going around taking blame
for things they didn't do they are either all bona fide saints or
total idiots.) --
Jonah Goldberg
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1) The Trail of Tears (1838): The first Democrat President, Andrew
Jackson and his successor Martin Van Buren, herded Indians into
camps, tormented them, burned and pillaged their homes and forced
them to relocate with minimal supplies. Thousands died along the way.
(Ok,
not very nice. Does his philosophy have any relation to the modern
Democratic party? Did he do this because he was a Democrat or because
he was an asshole?)
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2) Democrats Cause The Civil War (1860): The pro-slavery faction of
the Democrat Party responded to Abraham Lincoln's election by
seceding, which led to the Civil War. (Like
most of this rant, Democrats now should do what? Pay reparations
because some Democrats then liked slavery. Was it really just
Democrats that seceded or was it most of the people in the
South?)
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3) Formation of the KKK (1865): Along with 5 other Confederate
veterans, Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest created the KKK. (Again,
is there something about being a Democrat that makes you more prone
to racism. Would you say all or most racists are Democrats? Should a
Democrat today be held responsible for what some nutjobs who happened
to be Democrats did then? The same goes for Republicans. Unless it is
a continuous policy intrinsic to the Party it really doesn't reflect
on the party.)
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4) 300 Black Americans Murdered (1868): "Democrats in Opelousas,
Louisiana killed nearly 300 blacks who tried to foil an assault on a
Republican newspaper editor."
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5) The American Protective League and The Palmer Raids (1919-1921):
Under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson, criticizing the government
became a crime and a fascist organization, the American Protective
League was formed to spy on and even arrest fellow Americans for
being insufficiently loyal to the government. More than 100,000
Americans were arrested, with less than 1% of them ever being found
guilty of any kind of crime.
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6) Democrats Successfully Stop Republicans From Making Lynching A
Federal Crime (1922): "The U.S. House adopted Rep. Leonidas
Dyer’s (R., Mo.) bill making lynching a federal crime.
Filibustering Senate Democrats killed the measure."
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7) The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (1932-1972): Contrary to what you
may have heard, Democrats in Alabama did not give black Americans
syphilis. However, the experimenters did know that subjects of the
experiment unknowingly had syphilis and even after it was proven that
penicillin could be used to effectively treat the disease in 1947,
the experiments continued. As a result, a number of the subjects
needlessly infected their loved ones and died, when they could have
been cured.
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8) Japanese Internment Camps (1942): Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt
issued an executive order that led to more than 100,000 Japanese
Americans being put into "bleak, remote camps surrounded by
barbed wire and armed guards."
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9) Alger Hiss Convicted Of Perjury (1950): Hiss, who helped advise
FDR at Yalta and was strongly defended by the Left, turned out to be
a Soviet spy. He was convicted of perjury in 1950 (Sadly, the statute
of limitations on espionage had run out), but was defended by
liberals for decades until the Verona papers proved so conclusively
that he was guilty that even most his fellow liberals couldn't
continue to deny it.
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10) The West Virgina Democrat primary is rigged by John F. Kennedy
(1960): From an interview with the late, great Robert Novak.
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John Hawkins: You also said that without question, John F. Kennedy
rigged the West Virginia Democratic primary in (1960), but that the
Wall Street Journal killed the story. Do you think that sort of thing
is still occurring with great regularity and do you wish the Journal
had reported the story when it happened?
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Robert Novak: In my opinion, they should have. They sent two
reporters down to West Virginia for six weeks and they came back with
a carefully documented story on voter fraud in West Virginia, buying
votes, and how he beat Humphrey in the primary and therefore got the
nomination. But, Ed Kilgore, the President of Dow Jones and publisher
of the Wall Street Journal, a very conservative man, said it wasn’t
the business of the Wall Street Journal to decide the nominee of the
Democratic Party and he killed the story. That story didn’t come
out for many, many years — 30-40 years. It was kept secret all that
time.
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11) The Bay of Pigs (1961): After training a Cuban militia to
overthrow Castro, Kennedy got cold feet and didn't give the men all
the air support they were promised. As a result, they were easily
defeated by Castro's men and today, Cuba is still ruled by a hostile,
anti-American dictatorship.
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12) Fire Hoses And Attack Dogs Used On Children (1963): Birmingham,
Alabama's notorious Commissioner of Public Safety, Democrat Bull
Connor, used attack dogs and fire hoses on children and teenagers
marching for civil rights. Ultimately, thousands of them would also
be arrested.
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13) Stand In The Schoolhouse Door (1963): Democrat George Wallace
gave his notorious speech against integrating schools at the
University of Alabama in which he said, "segregation now,
segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."
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14) Escalation In Vietnam (1964): Lyndon Johnson dramatically
escalated our troops’ presence in Vietnam while he simultaneously
put political restrictions in place that made the war unwinnable. As
a result, 58,000 Americans died in a war that ultimately achieved
none of its aims.
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15) Chappaquiddick (1969): The Democrats’ beloved "Liberal
Lion" of the Senate, Ted Kennedy ran off the road into a tidal
pool with passenger Mary Jo Kopechne in the car. Kennedy swam free
and then spent 9 hours plotting how he would reveal the news to the
press while she slowly suffocated to death.
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16) Democrats Deliver South Vietnam To The North (1975): "In
1975, when there were no Americans left in Vietnam, the left wing of
the Democratic Party killed the government of South Vietnam, cut off
all of its funding, cut off all of its ammunition, and sent a signal
to the world that the United States had abandoned its allies."
-- Newt Gingrich (Lying weaseley
sack of shit. Interesting how when there's a Republican in the
Whitehouse Congress controls the universe but if a Democrat is in the
Whitehouse everything is his fault.)
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17) The Iranian Hostage Crisis (1979-1981): 52 Americans were held
hostage by the government of Iran for 444 days. After Jimmy Carter’s
disastrous, failed rescue attempt, (Did
Carter plan every detail of the operation? Did he fly the helicopter?
The buck stops there, but shit goes wrong in every military action.
The hostages were released when Reagan took office because CIA
Director George Bush gave the Ayatollah of rock and rolla a birthday
cake and asked him to keep them.) the
hostages were finally released after Ronald Reagan's inaugural
address.
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18) Bill Clinton turns down Osama Bin Laden (1996): In Bill Clinton's
own words, "'Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was
expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d
been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with
them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no
crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no
basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes
against America.' — Bill Clinton explains to a Long Island, N.Y.,
business group why he turned down Sudan’s offer to extradite Osama
Bin Laden to America in 1996." Had Bill Clinton accepted Sudan's
offer, 9/11 would have likely never happened. (9/11
would have likely never happened. WTF? Well if Nixon had killed
Osama's mom it definitely would have never happened. The pres. can
only go by the intelligence he's given. If he was told the threat was
substantial maybe he would have extradited, but if you want to second
guess every decision made in the past based on the knowledge we have
now, we can start with Iraq.)
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19) Bill Clinton was impeached (1998): Clinton became only the 2nd
President in American history to be impeached after he lied under
oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
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20) America loses its AAA credit rating (2011): The United States was
first given its AAA credit in 1917, but it couldn’t survive Barack
Obama's record breaking spending. In 2011, America lost its AAA
credit rating. (America
lost its AAA credit rating because of deregulation and lack of
enforcement of the regulations still in place. Mostly it lost its
rating because those same Ratings Agencies were giving Mortgage
Backed Securities made up of subprime loans AAA ratings. The shit hit
the fan before Obama took office and it wasn't all Bush's fault
either. Congress, the SEC, and every agency the oversees banking, and
Wall Street, totally dropped the ball. Conservatives are in favor of
bailing out the banks and billionaires that caused the crisis but
when it comes to spending money that will actually help the general
economy they are against it. Pumping money into the economy during a
crisis will help it grow, if it wouldn't why was everyone predicting
a contraction if we went over the fiscal cliff or now with the
sequester. When the economy is going and growing and there is a
surplus that is the time to cut spending and lower taxes, but not too
much or too fast or you end up in the same place again. Conservatives
say a family doesn't spend more than it takes in, and I agree
generally a responsible family doesn't. But the Country is like a
family with unexpected medical bills that insurance doesn't cover.
Maybe you put them on a credit card until you can pay them off. So
now you have a debt, (conservatives are so adamant about debt, like
it's a goddamned religion to them) are you going to put your entire
paycheck toward that credit card or are you going to put food on the
table and gas in the car so you can continue to go to work and make
another paycheck,...and put more money toward your debt.? Maybe
you'll even put a car repair, or a new tool for your business, or a
new suit for a job interview on that credit card if it will help you
make more money in the long run.)
So
this whole diatribe is just a list of things some Democrats have done
wrong in the past. Does it mean every part of the liberal agenda is
bad for the country, or every part of the conservative agenda is good
for it? Of course not. Would a similar list of conservative mistakes
be just as useless? Yes. The only reason for a list like this is to
whip up the base and force elected fools to stick to there guns. This
ensures nothing will get done and the country will continue to take a
huge shit.
When
someone comes up with a real plan to actually get something done I'll
listen. Everything else is just wasted words.
